Agree with you

Jun 24, 2016,12:25 PM
 

J for the win! It POPS on the wrist as you eluded to!

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A Trio Of 5131 Cloissone World Times

 
 By: patekova : June 16th, 2016-08:48
I am happy to share these images with the Forum members. I feel extremely! fortunate to own these three WTs. I am very curious to read how the forum members compare the 3 to each other in terms of preferences and general observations. I will be happy to s...  

Patekova.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 16th, 2016-08:57
.....thanks for sharing this. I think most people here would be happy with any single one of them. However, you do ask a specific question, and so I will give a specific answer. My order is the same as yours. I prefer R most as i feel it has a vibrancy an... 

Tough choice.

 
 By: Chimaera : June 16th, 2016-09:03
I too prefer the R - because the warm, brassy colour (esp the hands) recalls old navigational instruments. The effect is a Lilliputian such instrument.

Thank You Baron

 
 By: patekova : June 16th, 2016-09:06
for your detailed and cogent analysis. Yes, I couldn't believe my good fortune when I got the first one. I never expected to get more than one, but I hoped and was way beyond thrilled to get the others. I very much realize how fortunate I am to have them.... 

May I also say.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 16th, 2016-09:28
....i admire and respect the manner in which you presented these watches. Classy.

That is one rare trio. OMG!

 
 By: Thy1r : June 16th, 2016-09:06
What a great WT collection. I am trying myself to collect all 4 5110s (I\'m half way (p and r) ...). My choice : the R. I love the case and the cloisonné is IMO perfectly balanced. But I would give a better opinion if I had all 3 right now on my desk.

I do love them all. The 5110p is really my favourite and my everyday and travelling watch.

 
 By: Thy1r : June 16th, 2016-09:18
Thank you for sharing this trio. This is incredibly rare. How is the rest of your collection? As fun and unique?

Oh wow!

 
 By: sham1 : June 16th, 2016-09:28
You must be a very special customer of Patek. Well done on securing all three! Like many others, I am waiting for the rose gold version and I pray it will not be discontinued until we all get ours! I live in Europe and originate from Malaysia so the white... 

Thank you Sham for your very kind words!

 
 By: patekova : June 16th, 2016-09:35
I hope you get the R and sooner rather than later. As for the P, as my Dad would say "Hope springs eternal".

Hi Patekova, congrats on collecting all three ! What an awesome trio !

 
 By: GLau : June 16th, 2016-11:44
I have had the opportunities to examine all three and the good fortune of owning the G. IMO, each of them has certain aspects that are better than the other two. In terms of realism and color matching, R is top because patches of white ice cap are shown w... 

Thank you Gordon for your reply and great analysis!!

 
 By: patekova : June 16th, 2016-12:06
Your breakdown of the strengths of each based on specific colors is insightful and thought provoking. Unfortunately, your comment about the ice caps and global warning is a sad, but accurate statement of where things seem to be going. I assume there will ... 

Awesome trio!

 
 By: russell996 : June 16th, 2016-12:38
Congratulations on the latest addition. It is fascinating to see the differences in all the R\'s as more pictures get posted, from some with no snow to as you say some with more orange/yellow. All are truly stunning and so difficult to have a favourite bu...  

Thank you Russell996 for your kind words

 
 By: patekova : June 16th, 2016-13:39
Also for pointing out something I hadn't noticed, namely that some of the Rs do not have snow caps in the Arctic regions. This is another illustration as to how each one is onto itself.

Thank you Patekova.....

 
 By: watercolors : June 17th, 2016-03:04
for shearing these beauties. For me the yellow gold is the first choice, simply because I believe it to be the most traditional and I like it the most. Following the rose gold and then the white gold. The enamel is a state of the art on all of them and th... 

My pleasure Edward to share images of the watches.

 
 By: patekova : June 17th, 2016-07:41
I also think the yellow is very appealing and I am glad to see that at least one Patek collector rates it #1!

Agree with you

 
 By: el1125 : June 24th, 2016-12:25
J for the win! It POPS on the wrist as you eluded to!

Thank you el1125....

 
 By: watercolors : June 25th, 2016-02:03
for your kindness . Edward

They have been very seriously designed

 
 By: Mark in Paris : June 17th, 2016-13:40
Patek has brought a lot of attention to the details of this watch. As always we may say but the enamel work of this very 5131 reference is another story and brings the interest to another level IMHO. I would go for R then G then J personally. I like RG a ... 

Mark, thank you!! for your very detailed and thought provoking reply

 
 By: patekova : June 17th, 2016-14:53
I would like to focus in particular on what you said regarding the differences in the enamel work within a particular gold model, be it rose, white or yellow. The first one that I acquired was the J. I was ecstatic to get it and thought the map was beauti... 

I think you experienced something very much linked with the enamel work

 
 By: Mark in Paris : June 18th, 2016-09:50
These details differences and diversity in such dials are something we may not expect at first. How they spread the material before cooking, how it behaves during the heating process etc... everything has an impact an enameler cannot totally control. It o... 

Mark, your analysis of the enameling process is insightful and explains the diversity, so thanks!

 
 By: patekova : June 18th, 2016-15:00
I recall that after the introduction of the J, Patek had major problems with the enameling process, specifically many dials cracked during the baking process and had to be discarded. Obviously, they corrected the problem, but it points out the fickle natu... 

Hi Patrkova, I have previously read an article interviewing Thierry Stern and I recall that he said...

 
 By: GLau : June 19th, 2016-06:28
there was a mother and son team that worked on the dial. Perhaps there were 2 teams, one for J and one for G. Hence the workmanship is different and that is why each dial is unique. Due to good fortune, I had the choice of a J or G and checked out both wi... 

Gordon, happy to share an image of all three

 
 By: patekova : June 19th, 2016-18:02
Together - J, G and R ...  

An excellent photo of the 3 enamel WT siblings together! Analyzing this photo, my previous assessment of their rankings ...

 
 By: GLau : June 20th, 2016-00:32
remains the same: G & R rank equally at the top and J is the most eye-catching with its bright yellow Africa.

All 3 are beautiful. Functional works of art.

 
 By: geross : June 17th, 2016-14:08
WG is the best for me , RG , then the J. But the other 2 are no pushovers. Just my personal preference. Good you have all 3 in your stable. My admiration. Cheers Geross.

How did you get all 3?

 
 By: jonrus : June 17th, 2016-21:16
Did you get an allocation from the same AD, or different AD per piece? Since it's an application watch, PP would know this allocation.. just wondering how this works.. Thanks

3?

 
 By: fernando : June 20th, 2016-20:49
Yes I know, life isn't fair! G would be my choice as I tried on a friend's piece and it was absolutely stunning. cheers fernando

Final result (to date) of this informal survey The winner is:

 
 By: patekova : June 23rd, 2016-18:09
R with 9 votes. Second place goes to G with 4 votes. And last but still beautiful is J with 1 vote. A BIG thank you to all who took the time to share their preference and thoughts!! Best, patekova

My pleasure. And thanks for all your detailed and informative reviews.

 
 By: patekova : June 24th, 2016-11:38
And especially thanks for taking the time to respond to all the questions/opinions and posts of the Forum members!

Much appreciated Patekova, thank you :)

 
 By: Mark in Paris : June 24th, 2016-14:15
It is always a real pleasure discussing with such a community.

J or R for me

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : June 26th, 2016-01:39
the G is nice too but the multi colored dial imo needs a warm colored case too

Bruno, thank you for your reply and very interesting viewpoint on the G

 
 By: patekova : June 26th, 2016-09:58
I actually have the opposite preference on the case for the G. While the G is not my favorite map, I feel that the colorful dial with an emphasis on blue works really well with the white metal. Hearing a well reasoned opposite view makes the discussion al... 

Definition of great art?

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 26th, 2016-06:12
Something that makes you keep looking at it...... The 5131 has that!

Baron, thank you for your analysis. Never thought of 5131 as "great art", although

 
 By: patekova : June 26th, 2016-10:07
I do view it as a miniature work of art. However, maybe you are right. What constitutes great art is generally considered to be quite subjective. Yet you give a quantifiable measure which makes a lot of sense. Provided the reason one keeps looking at a wo...