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[Anniversary Year] 20 years - Split-second Chronograph with Perpetual Calendar - The 5004

Jul 23, 2015,14:57 PM
 

Gentlemen,


In 1995, Patek Philippe unveiled a new reference, the 5004. It was a very complicated piece with Split-second chronograph and Perpetual calendar functions based on the Nouvelle Lemania caliber.





This caliber CHR 27-70 Q (30 x 8.86mm) was equipped with an isolator (patented) combined to the Split-second function in order to have a lesser impact over the chronometric performance of the watch.


The finishing is trully amazing and the very "tight" construction was really hard to assemble.


The CHR 27-70 Q caliber


The watch being 36.7mm wide looked quite thick at the time. If you remember, the 3970 (Chronograph and Perpetual Calendar) was 36mm.


Here, in rose gold:

 


One of our member with the platinum and black dial version:


Credit: Nicacag66


But they were not the only versions to be produced as the watch was finally available in Steel in 50 pieces to celebrate the end of the reference 5004 and sold only at the Geneva Patek salon.


You'll find a wonderful review of the Steel version unveiled in 2011, by Oliver here: patek.watchprosite.com /



Credit: Small-luxury-world


Of course, you also may remember the 5004 Titanium unique version realized for the 2013 Only Watch auction, here below:

 


And here is a "trio" picture to admire the standard versions:

This reference has been replaced in 2012 by the 5204 reference.


Happy 20 years birthday!


Cheers, Mark



This message has been edited by Mark in Paris on 2015-07-23 15:10:40


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They are beautiful watches

 
 By: 4Js : July 23rd, 2015-15:53
and I also like the new 5204 black dial version. But in the end, the 3/9 registers really balances the watch for me. I don't care as much for the lowered registers. Just a personal preference. Best Joe

I usually don't have that much difficulties to decide which one I like

 
 By: Mark in Paris : July 24th, 2015-08:01
comparing an old reference and its replacing one but here I must say I don't know. Of course I prefer the new movement but concerning the face side, they are really both beautiful. 5204 Black dial And here it is with a 5270's movement: They really have co...  

Agree. Face side both beautiful. Plat-Black of course for me :-) [nt]

 
 By: 4Js : July 24th, 2015-12:42

I tried the 5204r in Geneva, and it is with no doubt :

 
 By: Thy1r : June 13th, 2016-13:47
The best caliber I have ever had in hands! So deep. So lively. And the r makes it very elegant. ...  

The 29-535 in the 5170/5270 is gorgeous and wonderfully decorated and finished

 
 By: Mark in Paris : June 14th, 2016-14:37
but on this 5204 it is even more so from my taste Cheers, Mark

Thanks Mark for this anniversary post ! All are nice, especially the...

 
 By: GLau : July 23rd, 2015-19:35
titanium 5004 which went under the auction hammer at a whopping $3.9mn ! Cheers, Gordon

I didn't remember that

 
 By: Mark in Paris : July 24th, 2015-08:05
That's quite a figure, I wonder how they'll do with this year's piece? This 5004 was in Ti and had a very specific dial. The Onlywatch 2015 is a Triple complication but more classical in its outfit (except it is made of Steel). Thanks Gordon! Cheers, Mark... 

Hi Mark, thanks for this anniversary post ! All are nice, especially the...

 
 By: GLau : July 23rd, 2015-19:37
titanium 5004 which went under the auction hammer at a whopping $3.9mn ! Cheers, Gordon

These are what the dreams are made of.

 
 By: dr.kol : July 23rd, 2015-20:33
Thank you for the post. Best, Kari

Thank you

 
 By: el1125 : July 23rd, 2015-21:28
for the posting on 5004. For me, my 5204 white dial is my current favorite Patek watch I own. I tried on the 5004 first several variants before deciding and the watch proportions were not for me. Much too small on MY wrist and much too tall. It's a nice w... 

This is often an element which helps make the decision

 
 By: Mark in Paris : September 11th, 2015-13:54
The new proportions are something we are much more used to nowadays. I'd love to see a picture of your 5204 in the wild one day! By the way, the movement is stunning. Cheers, Mark

Here

 
 By: el1125 : June 13th, 2016-12:53
Here you go Mark. My favorite version of the split second. ...  

Yes, that is it, ntaural colors and "live" atmosphere

 
 By: Mark in Paris : June 14th, 2016-14:36
I think this is the way I like looking at watch pictures: thank you for the wristshot! Glad you're the happy owner of such a complicated Patek (which also mean normal-sized.... as a complicated piece should try to be, IMHO) Cheers, Mark

Especially when one is particularly attracted by this beautiful brand

 
 By: Mark in Paris : July 24th, 2015-08:09
I was surpised to see that the 5204 and 5370 are not that far away from one another in terms of price. It would be a much tougher choice than I thought. Thank you Kari :) Cheers, Mark

Not far away?

 
 By: dr.kol : July 24th, 2015-08:33
Something around 40k away. It's the price of a car... Anyhow, for me this is not so difficult: First of all, the dial of 5370 is in my eyes superior. Secondly, the perpetual module adds the price with 40k - that's pretty hefty. Thirdly, the case of 5370 i... 

In fact,

 
 By: Mark in Paris : July 24th, 2015-08:43
when I look at the normal Perpetual Calendar (let's say 5139 or 5940) and a normal chronograph from the brand (5170), I noticed we come roughly to a Chrono Perpetual Calendar reference (5270) tag. Hence when I see the difference of 5370 versus 5204, it is... 

Congrats! Already 5,000 posts.

 
 By: dr.kol : July 24th, 2015-08:52
It's quite an achievement. Yes, both would be an ideal solution. I will order the other in a bit over two weeks and if the business looks in a year as good as it looks now, I will order the other one. But luckily I can also survive by getting only one mor... 

Sounds a perfect planning to me :)

 
 By: Mark in Paris : July 24th, 2015-09:00
And thanks for the 5K tag Kari! Cheers, Mark

Small, thick, but full of charm. That was a nice reference.

 
 By: amanico : July 24th, 2015-21:29
I heard that Patek had big issues to make the split seconds reliable, on the 5004. Rumor or fact? Good idea, this post! Best, Nicolas

Nicolas

 
 By: el1125 : July 24th, 2015-21:38
I heard the same thing. I believe it was on the earlier ones released but not 100% certain.

Thanks, El 1125. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : July 24th, 2015-21:39

I must say I'm quite appealed by these proportions

 
 By: Mark in Paris : July 25th, 2015-03:36
At the beginning the "hamburger" shape was really not my thing. But the more I saw the 3970 for instance or this 5004 in pictures I feel the charm indeed. Concerning the reliability, I don't know, but I heard about there was a possible "update" during ser... 

Great watch - the Only version is rocking [nt] [nt]

 
 By: Maverik : July 25th, 2015-12:08

Yes, it was an beautiful and important reference for Patek

 
 By: Mark in Paris : July 26th, 2015-03:29
Ti must have been much lighter :)

Very nice. A technical marvel. An aesthetic beauty.

 
 By: geross : September 12th, 2015-01:27
I particularly like the steel version. Being a chrono it is also a watch with a function that is also sporty , hence the steel version fits or suits the watch nicely. My opinion. Thanks for highlighting this patek mark. Cheers Geross

It is very modern and casual that way indeed

 
 By: Mark in Paris : September 12th, 2015-08:55
The only interrogation I have is that the strap looks a little "plastic" like on the picture. Thank you Geross :) Cheers, Mark

nice post Mark; i couldn't ask more for a modern PP...

 
 By: gensiulia : September 12th, 2015-08:01
...the black dialed version is as-to-ni-shing! thanks for pointing out the anniversary, my mind liked it :-) ciao, chris

My pleasure Chris!

 
 By: Mark in Paris : September 21st, 2015-14:47
Yes, I think that Patek has quite well managed to travel through the different eras of watchmaking. This 5004 is a very interesting reference. Cheers, Mark