Modern Versions

Sep 10, 2017,17:47 PM
 

For me, each new piece stands as its own creation.


either it speaks to you or it doesn't.  

Some people might be disturbed by a particular departure from vintage designs, others not.

To my view, a 40mm case is too large for this watch and movement.  The date doesn't bother me.

FWIW, I think Chopard has yet to top the original 1860 with the 1.96 movement.  Perfect size, shape and simplicity.  Wish I owned one.

Best, Gary


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L.U.C XPS New Models - (perhaps) World's Fastest Live Photos!

 
 By: KIH : September 9th, 2017-17:27
As I just have been to the factories and they let me take photos (with embargo then), although I am still preparing the report, let me share with you the live photos of the new L.U.C XPS series. Just superb. Platinum Model: (yeah, yeah, yeah, if the date ...  
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The date on this one isn't too bad for two reasons...

 
 By: mdg : September 9th, 2017-17:33
1. The applied markers remain the same size all around. 2. It is at the '3' position and doesn't interrupt the sub-second hand. Love the thinness. Great photos...thank you once again. m
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Spot on assessment, wholly agree.

 
 By: anonymous09 : September 9th, 2017-18:37
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Great model!

 
 By: Bounce781 : September 9th, 2017-18:31
The white gold model with no date is an ABSOLUTELY KILLER!cant wait to see it in stores
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That would be a fantastic choice! [nt]

 
 By: KIH : September 9th, 2017-19:55
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LUC

 
 By: gary01 : September 9th, 2017-19:14
Thanks for the great photos!! Lovely pieces, for sure. Though for me, the original LUC 1860 with the caliber 1.96 is still the best LUC watch ever. I have never seen Geneva Seal stamped on a watch case - I thought it was stamped only on movements (such as... 
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Hmmmm

 
 By: gary01 : September 9th, 2017-21:29
That's strange - don't like the case stamp unless it has a meaning with respect to the case itself. Geneva Seal and COSC, while both historic, appear to have increasingly less significance - the METAS Certification and Fleurier Cert seem to have more weig... 
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The specifications of the Poinçon de Genève have been significantly updated in 2011 and again in 2014...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : September 10th, 2017-00:15
when the criteria were extended to cover also casing components and the functioning of the final assembled watch, and not only the movement itself. This inludes for example the water resistancy of the watch case. Thus, sealing the case makes sense now as ... 
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Thank you... [nt]

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : September 10th, 2017-01:16
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Interesting

 
 By: gary01 : September 10th, 2017-05:15
Thanks for the reply and the interesting info. Since the seal has relevance to the case itself as makes sense to appear in case. Do you know of any other manufacturer that shows the Geneva seal on the case? Best Regards, Gary
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Other brands exhibiting the Geneva seal on the case

 
 By: mustafadurrani : April 13th, 2018-11:05
Vacheron Constantin
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Very informative

 
 By: Blourenco : September 10th, 2017-12:36
Great to know ... and that white gold model is stunning!
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Not much difference from the previous generation.

 
 By: jim vancouver : September 9th, 2017-19:23
Personally, I prefer the L.U.C XPS Poinçon de Genève in platinum. The indexes aren't sharp.
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Ahhh ...

 
 By: jim vancouver : September 9th, 2017-21:30
.... Though the platinum version has no numerals at all.
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Can you grab 50 no date models for a special P16 edition, please?

 
 By: cazalea : September 9th, 2017-21:17
Half Rose Gold and half White Gold will do nicely. And if KFS could just sign the boxes ... Cazalea
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I'll put my name down for a WG one, then :) [nt]

 
 By: KMII : September 9th, 2017-23:12
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LOL!

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : April 13th, 2018-14:59
But I agree!
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Thanks for sharing these!

 
 By: KMII : September 9th, 2017-23:11
All three are very nice. The only comment I have is that I found the dauphine hands on the first generation XPS a tad more elegant than the dauphine fusee ones here. Sure, the latter are a Chopard LUC hallmark but appear a tad sportier to me in this insta... 
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Yes, the hands may require a bit of "getting used to", but as most L.U.C now have these hands, we may have to accept these as "L.U.C standard"...:-)

 
 By: KIH : September 10th, 2017-00:53
.. which is okay with me. Looking from another angle (warning: devil's advocate), there are too many dauphine hands watches and don't we get tired of them? )
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You can never...

 
 By: Esharp : September 10th, 2017-01:12
Have too many Dauphine hands!!! 😜 Seriously, the Chopard 'fusion' hands are cool. But for sheer elegance I will pick Dauphine hands any day, hands down (groan...). Best E.
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I know what you mean :-)) [nt]

 
 By: KIH : September 10th, 2017-01:31
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Fully agreed :) [nt]

 
 By: KMII : September 10th, 2017-02:07
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I hear you...

 
 By: KMII : September 10th, 2017-02:07
And it would not be a killer criterium for me
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I prefer these hands over Dauphine. No contest for me. [nt]

 
 By: watchthatman : September 18th, 2017-05:26
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Many thanks Ken for this beautiful and detailed review with superb pics 👌👌👌

 
 By: Mike H : September 10th, 2017-00:42
The 3 are indeed quite beautiful versions but the white gold one with black dial is also the one that sings to me most. Not only because of no date, not only because no controversy as regards to the seal on the case, but simply because the whole LUC packa... 
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:-)) (nodding)... [nt]

 
 By: KIH : September 10th, 2017-00:50
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Thank you Ken for this report. The date on the platinum one is not disturbing at all for me. It's well integrated and discreet as the background colour is the same than the dial

 
 By: Alkiro1 : September 10th, 2017-01:10
For a cost reason, I think I would go for the WG version if I had to choose only one of them. Best wishes Alkiro
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😊

 
 By: Alkiro1 : September 10th, 2017-12:17
Best wishes Alkiro
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Thanks, Ken!

 
 By: Esharp : September 10th, 2017-01:15
I like...thought there was also a steel version??? For perfection - in my eyes - the '12' would be replaced by a double set of indexes. And the seconds hand would be a bit larger, so that the index at 6 is made smaller - just changing the proportions of t... 
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You are right. Forgot to mention. There was not SS version at the factory when I visited....

 
 By: KIH : September 10th, 2017-01:31
.. but whitish dial does not appeal this time, although normally I prefer SS case.... Ken
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What are the sizes?

 
 By: jgbbxl : September 10th, 2017-05:21
Hello, thank you for the nice pictures! Can you give some more information about sizes? I've got a thin wrist and I'm in the market for a classic dress watch between 35 and 37mm maximum.
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The Spec says....

 
 By: KIH : September 10th, 2017-05:54
SIze: 40mm Thickness: 7.20mm My wrist is small, too (16.5mm), but it didn't look too big.... Hope this helps! Ken
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Great report Ken !

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : September 10th, 2017-06:24
the white gold black dial is a killer ! Thanks for the many nice pics and great review. Cheers Robin
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Thanks! How have you been?

 
 By: KIH : September 10th, 2017-06:43
Great to hear from you. Ken
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Very very busy at work :)

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : September 10th, 2017-18:02
hopefully things get better soon Hope we can meet someday again Cheers Robin
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What were they thinking with the date

 
 By: watch-er : September 10th, 2017-16:57
on a classic dress watch styled from an era of no date windows.
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Modern Versions

 
 By: gary01 : September 10th, 2017-17:47
For me, each new piece stands as its own creation. either it speaks to you or it doesn't. Some people might be disturbed by a particular departure from vintage designs, others not. To my view, a 40mm case is too large for this watch and movement. The date... 
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Thankful for your reports fast like a rocket

 
 By: kolosstt : September 12th, 2017-12:49
The WG for me please. Actually date at 6 is more harmonic to me. That's why PT is not for me. Are we sure that both movements have the same finishing no matter of Geneva seal or not? Would be interested if the actual finishing work is different or just th... 
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All stunning. Maybe I could live with the date. Thank you! [nt]

 
 By: watchthatman : September 18th, 2017-05:18
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HOT, HOT and HOT!

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : April 13th, 2018-15:02
That white gold is killer! May be my next watch purchase. Thanks for posting these, Ken. Really special.
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My goodness

 
 By: traineract : April 27th, 2018-08:00
The new Xps is really nice and clean! Sterile yet attractive! I liked the earlier Xps but this is even better
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That report hits the s spot Ken,

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : April 27th, 2018-10:43
Great review of some tasty looking watches. I will be checking them out as soon as possible.
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Superb Photos. Thanks KIH [nt]

 
 By: Teacher Yang : April 27th, 2018-15:59
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