Sorry to hear of the difficulty Tony.

Jul 10, 2013,14:29 PM
 

Let me start by saying that I applaud the manner in which you wrote your post, and wish others would use it as a model when voicing displeasure.

As for the content of your post, I see both sides of the equation to be honest.  I am currently working on a write up about the AP Restoration Workshop.  It as an amazing, amazing area atop the original Audemars house where the vintage pieces are worked on.  Perhaps your watch was even there when I was there... there were a good handful of pieces that were being evaluated for service.

I completely understand AP not sending these specific hands out to other service centers.  There are 2 watchmakers at AP Le Brassus that handle all vintage restorations.  If I owned that watch, I would insist upon it being worked on at the factory by these master watchmakers and not another service center.  That said, I'm sure the Clearwater watchmakers could handle it, but the policy on vintage pieces is strict.

I'm afraid I can also understand their requirement for doing a movement service while having it opened.  Aside from the cost, is there a reason why you would not want that done while the watch was there? 

Perhaps the only thing I could fault AP for here was not conveying the policy to you before the watch was sent in.  When Axelle and Derek insisted you only wanted the hands changed, a simple "we won't  do that" would have saved the time, shipping expense, and much of the aggravation for you.  I'm sure you would still have been disappointed, but at least your hopes would not have been alive for a few extra weeks.

From AP's side, surely it was a non-AP watchmaker that would have changed the hands in the first place.  On such a vintage piece, I understand them wanting to have it in proper order if they were already going to be working on it.  From your side, you did not want to spend thousands of dollars you felt were unnecessary, and we would all agree in principle that should be your decision.

For the record, AP is so committed to the restoration of vintage timepieces that they actually work on pieces from other brands.  The make new parts when necessary - by hand - just as it was done over a hundred years ago.  They take it very seriously.

I feel for your disappointment Tony and wish I could help.  Your comments are fair and I'm sure will not go unnoticed.

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Disappointing service experience

 
 By: Tony C. : July 10th, 2013-11:06
I will begin this post with a few qualifications. As some readers know, I am primarily a collector of vintage watches. It should come as no surprise, then, that the recent, negative experience I had with the AP service department relates to a request for ... 

not really surprised....

 
 By: mjnoumoff : July 10th, 2013-13:08
AP may have a policy that every watch that the company works on must have a service (or at least a record of a recent previous service by the company must be present) or AP will not perform any other type(s) of service on the watch, even cosmetic changes.... 

Sorry to hear of the difficulty Tony.

 
 By: MichaelC : July 10th, 2013-14:29
Let me start by saying that I applaud the manner in which you wrote your post, and wish others would use it as a model when voicing displeasure. As for the content of your post, I see both sides of the equation to be honest. I am currently working on a wr... 

Thank you, Michael...

 
 By: Tony C. : July 10th, 2013-18:17
I appreciate your thoughtful response, though we will have to agree to disagree on a few points. As to this question: " Aside from the cost, is there a reason why you would not want that done while the watch was there? " my answer is twofold. First, while... 

Hi Tony.

 
 By: MichaelC : July 11th, 2013-07:51
I do understand where you are coming from. I'm going to follow up with you by PM.

Welcome to the world of high end products.

 
 By: JerryW : July 10th, 2013-20:25
I have had a few watches serviced by AP (one is going to the AP spa tomorrow for a case refinish but due to the age I know they will require a service), sure it is expensive but the workmanship IMO is first class. Every time a watch is returned I fell lik... 

Service

 
 By: Tony C. : July 11th, 2013-07:39
I appreciate your input, Jerry, but I never suggested that AP's technical services were anything other than outstanding. My complaints are about policies relating to service, not the actual service itself. Regards, Tony C.

Not just AP

 
 By: 41northpole : July 12th, 2013-04:56
In a similar vein, although to me even more ludicrous; It does appear these days that although you buy a watch, you no longer truly own it all. When it comes to service items, some companies charge you for the new part, but refuse to return the old part (... 

Hi Tim...

 
 By: Tony C. : July 12th, 2013-10:59
I couldn't agree more with the absurdity of the policy you mention: In a similar vein, although to me even more ludicrous; It does appear these days that although you buy a watch, you no longer truly own it all. When it comes to service items, some compan... 

I've argued for years that is theft...

 
 By: Tony-GB : July 13th, 2013-17:14
...To take someone else's property without their permission is theft. I would never purchase anything from a company that has that practice. Tony