Some Experience on Royal Oaks

Mar 05, 2014,10:25 AM
 

Although much have been discussed before, I still hope to share my humble experience after being blessed with some great opportunities to handle several versions of the jumbo, new and old. It is not a review but just some thoughts on the styling, wearing comfort, etc comparing the different generations and also other more modern models such as the 15300 & 15400. In a nutshell, all ROs are special. Although one may wear slightly differently from another, they are all winners in their own rights.  


5402 - Its 7mm "thick" case with solid case back is the slimmest. The legendary 2121 movement is concealed within the monocoque watch case. Agreed that the GF clasp is very comfortable but the older bracelet design has very limited removable links and it only suits larger wrist size. It didn't fit very well on my 6.75" wrist. The entire watch, while look sporty, does feel a little fragile due to the thin case and very thin bracelet. But it looks extremely good on the wrist. The original dial with the double-stick 12 o'clock marker and the AP logo at 6pm is the most iconic jumbo dial, and the nicest of all. 



Another detail of 5402 which I like is the tapered case back. Look at how the case back tapered from the side of the watch case towards the centre
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14802 (Jubilee) - The first 8mm case with display case back exposing the amazing 2121 movement. The clasp is now single-fold. The plain rectangular shape clasp is very comfortable as there is no protruding edges like the newer AP logo single-fold clasp. For a smaller wrist like mine, I swap the orientation of the clasp to achieve better wearing comfort. The petite tapiserie dial is equally mesmerising as the original 5402. 








15202 (pre-2012) - Same case size as 14802. Major design change in the dial, rotor engraving, and sporting the new AP logo single-fold clasp. With the shorter hour markers, arabic numbering on the outer ring, white box around the date aperture and the grand tapiserie dial, the entire watch looks even more sportier. The 3 dial colours (charcoal, slate-blue and white) offer good choices. The AP logo clasp doesn't wear as comfortable but it sure is elegant. The engraving of the rotor is tasteful.






15202 (2012) - As many have put, it is as close to the original as you can get for the jumbo. We see the return of double-stick 12 o'clock marker and AP@6, as well as the famed petite tapiserie dial. The blue dial has a new shade of blue which is not quite near the original. I still feel the original dial colour is somewhat mysterious and more attractive. The little squares on the dial seem to be spaced a little far apart from each other compared to the original petite tapiserie dial. The font used is also changed. The result is a more modern and technical feel as opposed to the more classical feeling of the original design. The dark-blue date wheel with white numbering is however a welcomed detail which adds to the cohesiveness of the entire dial. The new rotor engraving is nice but feels more "industrial" compared to the previous model. The bracelet has been reworked with thicker size (same size or "flushed" with the lug-end of the watch case... previous model has a bracelet thinner than the lug). The clasp is now an enhanced butterfly clasp. The new bracelet has somehow given this revised jumbo a much bolder presence than the previous models, and it does give a more solid feeling in the hand.  








How about the 15300 and 15400? 

With the in-house 3120 movement, they come with a slightly thicker watch case and thicker bracelet. These add to a more substantial feeling and a bolder wrist presence compared to the jumbos. The modern models also have 60hr power reserve (as compared to the 38hr on the jumbo), quick-set date and second hand, which provide convenience and a sense of interaction assuring the wearer that the watch is ticking! As for 39mm vs 41mm, my take is that there is no real pros and cons here, it only depends on individual preference of size. As a matter of fact, the design of the RO's integrated steel bracelet makes the entire watch wears like a... bracelet. I think any size from 33mm - 44mm would look great on the wrist as long as the watch matches the apparel and style.

A pvd-ed 15300. Not the best example... but it's kinda cool..



15400. The bigger case size wears quite balanced on my 6.75" wrist. The new bracelet allows more room for adjustment too. (The bracelet in the photo has not been adjusted).



Don't ever forget the 36mm 14790.

I have to say that the 36mm size is most suitable for 6" - 6.5" wrist. However, it looks very balanced on my 6.75" wrist too. The overall slim profile and the same petite tapiserie dial like the jumbo make the watch very dressy. People who look for the 36mm RO are certainly spoilt with many dial options, movement types, case/bracelet materials and even complications.

Here's a photo of a 2-tone one that I've handled before. 



About other smaller ROs… A quick shot here of my wife's Lady RO on my wrist! Not really out of place though in terms of size except for the diamonds…



Hope these info and personal experience of mine is helpful for anyone who has yet to firm up his/her mind for a Royal Oak smile


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Salmon dials? Oliver and Mo are gonna get nuts.

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 5th, 2014-10:43
Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts and showing us many unusual ROs. Very interesting. Cheers, Mark
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Thanks for appreciating :) [nt]

 
 By: orangedial : March 7th, 2014-18:33
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Excellent post Wayne! Everyone should review it.

 
 By: MichaelC : March 5th, 2014-10:50
Great information in there and a wonderful summary of the Royal Oak. I have shared some of my feelings on the newest 15202 and will bring more soon. I appreciate it more every day, and a summary post like yours reveals the great challenge AP had in updati... 
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We are looking forward to that in-depth review, Michael

 
 By: passetemps : March 6th, 2014-05:07
Perhaps you might like to select and compile comments made on the forum by some of us as well about the 15202 "40th". After one week of ownership, it keeps growing on me. This Jumbo is so perfect and so so so wearable. Looking at the dial in the sun is mo... 
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Thank you Frank! I'm glad that...

 
 By: orangedial : March 7th, 2014-18:36
we have found another GREAT FAN of RO jumbo in you :)
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WOW! Thanks Michael for the Masthead :D

 
 By: orangedial : March 7th, 2014-18:34
Can't wait to read your review of the new 15202ST. Will you include info on the subtle dial changes on this new model?
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Wonderful summary!

 
 By: respo : March 5th, 2014-11:27
Thanks for posting this summary of the Royal Oaks. Here is one that you may not have seen and handled: This is the 15002, a transitional model, the last series produced with a solid case back and in production more or less concurrently with the Jubilee se...  
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Thanks Respo! That 15002 is ever elusive...

 
 By: orangedial : March 7th, 2014-18:40
and I'm glad you have found a perfect sample of it. The thinness of this reference is still unrivaled in the entire series of RO jumbo, and the best attribute in my personal opinion. Thanks for the side-by-side comparison :)
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Great summary and write up

 
 By: rnaden : March 5th, 2014-16:19
I needed this. Gives me a lot more information and history of the Royal Oak. Some here know I've been dreaming and contemplating on one for a while now, and I've decided to take the plunge with the 15450, simply because I like the size and fit, and the si... 
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Yes! Congratulations, Richard.

 
 By: MichaelC : March 6th, 2014-06:06
I have had this decision in the back of my mind and am glad you selected the right Royal Oak for you. That is what it is all about! I do not want to threadjack Wayne's wonderful post here; please make a new post of your 15450 when it arrives. Very happy f... 
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SUPPLEMENT INFO: AP RO 15450

 
 By: orangedial : March 7th, 2014-19:00
Thanks Richard! I'm glad you have found YOUR RO ;) I've some experience with 15450 too! How can I miss that out in my earlier post! Personally, I find the 15450 a very proportionate piece. It is amazing that AP is able to adapt the in-house 3120 movement ...  
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Thank you

 
 By: rnaden : March 7th, 2014-19:12
That side by side comparison is great. Also goes to show how AP takes pride in ensuring that there is something for all their customers. That's design and care, if you ask me.
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Colour of dial

 
 By: 111thomas1111 : July 10th, 2016-12:41
Just wondering is this that grey dial of the 15450 they sell now or does a white dial of the 15450 exist to? I'm confused on this one not an ap guy yet
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Nice comparison.

 
 By: JerryW : March 5th, 2014-21:45
Each version seems to be special in its own way. I have always considered the Jumbo to be the Perfect AP. JerryW
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Me too, Jerry! Thanks for reading :) [nt]

 
 By: orangedial : March 7th, 2014-19:02
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A brother says 'hi'

 
 By: mpiz : March 5th, 2014-23:47
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Cool shot! The blackened 15300 is unique :) [nt]

 
 By: orangedial : March 7th, 2014-19:03
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As a 'C' series owner, this is the post I was waiting for...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : March 6th, 2014-01:35
I learned a lot - the details, e.g. the tapered case back - makes the watch (and my personal choice) even more exciting. You really encouraged me to inspect the different dial finishes (esp. the tapisserie styles) in much more detail than I already did. T... 
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Thanks Magnus! I admire your attention to details...

 
 By: orangedial : March 7th, 2014-19:08
and your dedication to share knowledge and experiences which was evidence on your recent great posts. I certainly hope that my personal insights could benefit fellow enthusiasts out there and help them make better informed decisions. I'm glad with your co... 
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mm

 
 By: psfparis : March 6th, 2014-01:36
thanks for this review, very interesting i fully agree when you say that 36mm size is most suitable for 6" - 6.5" wrist, that the reason why i stay away from jumbo so far...i even think buy an other 36mm (the 25594st) my sober & discrete14990 ...  
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More important than the actual size of your wrist

 
 By: passetemps : March 6th, 2014-05:14
It is the width of the flat part of your wrist. My belief is that the flat part on the top of your wrist (i.e. the distance from the end of one bone to the end of the other bone) should be 5 cm or more in order to be able to enjoy the Jumbo in full. Less ... 
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bones

 
 By: psfparis : March 7th, 2014-01:06
your are totaly right, plastic surgery is my last chance then....
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Thanks! You have made the wise choice...

 
 By: orangedial : March 7th, 2014-19:14
to get the most suitable RO for yourself! I own a 36mm RO and I know how great it is. Your Fondation is very special. I've seen a sample here in my city but there are already discoloration on the dial… There's another version I've handled (picture below) ...  
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Really a great post. I wear a Jumbo on my

 
 By: pastaboy1939 : July 11th, 2016-04:57
6.75" wrist--- very comfortable. ...  
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