2. Octavio Garcia - Chief Artistic Officer, Lucas Gopp - Senior Designer

Jan 26, 2015,05:13 AM
 

Mr. Octavio Garcia was born in Chicago, USA.  His passion for drawing was nurtured by the habit of copying his favorite heroes on paper, while helping his father repairing old American muscle car sparked his interest in mechanics and industrial designs.

He joined Audemars Piguet as Design Manager in 2003. 




 

Mr. Octavio Garcia’s current title is the Chief Artistic Officer, joined by Mr. Lucas Gopp whose current title is the Senior Designer.

 

 

KIH: Thank you very much for your time. 

 

Mr. Octavio Garcia (“OG”): We are all fans of PuristSPro.  We always look at our brand forum as well as other brands forum.  We enjoy the objective views of your forum.

 

 

KIH: In the brand that has established “style” like Audemars Piguet, you must have certain “constraint” in designing new model.  What hurdles do you face and how do you deal with them?

 

OG: In a company like Audemars Piguet, with heritage and tradition, the constraint is the product it has built in the past, for more than 130 years.  We have two iconic collections – Royal Oak and Royal Oak Offshore, and working around what make those products recognizable is for us probably the most exciting and creative driver that you can have as a designer.  It is a fantastic challenge to work with Royal Oak and Royal Oak Offshore because of the recognizability.  Then we have Millenary collection where despite the fact that we have established the oval shape style, it is more like “sky is the limit” approach where anything is possible.  There, the challenge is different because you try to make a statement and create an element that eventually one day will be recognizable element.  Having those two playing fields, from the design point of view, it is the best mix.

 

Mr. Lucas Gopp (“LG”): We always wonder what else can be done, we constantly look for technical solutions from design.  For smaller quantities, we can do more cutting-edge things.  And we constantly fight for solutions.  We provide technical solutions together with the engineers to get around the technical constraints as much as possible.

 

 

KIH: How do you work with the “inside the watch” departments?

 

LG: We do the external design, finishing, engraving, the smallest details, etc.  But when the movement engineers come up with new ideas, we of course collaborate.  We work very closely together.  It’s a team effort.

 

OG: Designers and engineers hate each other.  No, kidding smile.  Throughout the years, we found that the best environment is the synergistic one.  We have a good grasp on what we want to communicate to the brand.  For example, for all those complicated pieces, we actually give input to the engineers and sort of orient their approach.  The engineers over time have developed aesthetic sensitivity.  They understand over time where we want to go with the different collections.  They understand the personality of each collection, and depending on which collection we decide to undertake, they already have good idea of, for example, with Royal Oak – we are speaking about the movement which is relatively thin, and we want to maintain elegance.  With Millenary, we have this off-center theme and oval shape, with Royal Oak Offshore, it often have chronograph.  So there is context each time. So, we have this framework of innovation per collection in which we can play together.  And so, understanding that takes time, but when you are aligned with your team, I think it is probably the most important role of the designer to be able to promote these ideas, the different philosophy for each collection across the maison, including but not limited to engineering and marketing – because at the end of the day, marketing has to tell the story.



 

LG: We sit together very early on in the project phases.  We don’t wait until late stage.  Development of the movement takes a long time and cost a lot, and if the movement is already done, there is not much the designers can do about it.

 

 

KIH: How many new models do you design per year?

 

OG: Anywhere between 5 and 10 novelties per year, ranging from face lift to innovative one, to brand new or complicated calibers.

 

 

KIH: Lastly, what will be your biggest challenges in terms of designing the watches?

 

OG: The biggest challenge is to stick to the goal the company sets – not the short term, but the long term.  We make sure that we see the destination, we have ambitions, and to be able to stick to that course despite the economic situation.  It is important that we stay on the course for the long term, NOT the short term.

 

LG: In developing watches, time literally flies – it took 8 years to develop RD#1, and years go by so quickly.  So, it is always important to think in the long run.  We don’t get nervous or over-enthusiastic.  We just maintain constant speed for the long road.



 

 

KIH: Thank you so much for your time.

 

Both: You are welcome.

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They clearly share the same vision about the "themes" and the "direction" or "philosophy" of the brand with others.  They are the team of just four designers.  Incredible jobs, they do.  Very much looking forward to "what's next".  Again, thank you very much, both!

Ken



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SIHH 2015: Audemars Piguet - Interviews

 
 By: KIH : January 26th, 2015-05:09
I tried to arrange interviews with as many senior management of Audemars Piguet as possible, and was able to interview those gentlemen: 1. Francois-Henry Bennahmias - CEO 2. Octavio Garcia - Chief Artistic Director / Lucas Gopp - Senior Designer 3. Tim Sa...  

1. Francois-Henry Bennahmias, CEO

 
 By: KIH : January 26th, 2015-05:12
Mr. Francois-Henry Bennahmias was born in Paris and his first career was “pro golfer”. He went up to 25 th ranked in France, and then he started the new career in the luxury goods. He first was in the high-end apparel industry before joining the high-end ...  

Thanks KIH-truly disappointed with CEO's attitude

 
 By: sschew : January 26th, 2015-06:48
Thanks KIH. I've learned a lot from FHB just from his answers. 1) Well he's no JC Biver that's for sure and that's a real shame. 2) Some of his answers were flippant and bordered on the offensive. 'No tower went down.' Can't believe a CEO would even say s... 

Thanks for reading.... but I don't understand your "disappointment"..

 
 By: KIH : January 26th, 2015-07:02
.. he just said that the economic turbulence, which is now represented by the rise of Swiss Franc, is not something we should make a big deal of. It is part of life and there is not much we can do, so we just go on doing what we can. That is what he said.... 

A CEO who should choose his answers more wisely

 
 By: sschew : January 26th, 2015-07:07
Sure KIH. It's the arrogant way he comes across-'it's only money and things like no tower went down.' Well to some customers who have to save for their watches money is a factor and when he mentions that no tower went down is a clear referral to the twin ... 

I don t mean to hijack your conversation with Ken but..

 
 By: moc : January 26th, 2015-07:32
Why do you always mention JC Biver as an example?I am not saying he is not but I wonder...just curious.. What Francoise Bennahmias stated seems ok to me,perhaps not in line with prefabricated press answers we are used to ,perhaps little direct but God Ble... 

+1: Nobody died, No fiscal tsunami and No hijacked crash: No big deal

 
 By: MTF : January 26th, 2015-07:52
The key message is that whatever the Swiss National Bank did to the foreign exchange cap is just about money. It's not a Life or Death issue. This pays respect to those alive or dead by raising them above 'mere money'. Reading things that are not there an... 

Amen.... [nt]

 
 By: moc : January 26th, 2015-08:03

Hello MTC

 
 By: sschew : January 26th, 2015-08:19
Thanks for your input and reply but I have to respectfully disagree. I can only extrapolate imagery if it is presented to me. Mr. B first made mention of 'tower'-did he not? From that statement how can one not immediately conjur up certain 'feelings' or t... 

The use of JC Biver's name

 
 By: sschew : January 26th, 2015-07:53
Hi Moc, I use JC Biver because that's my only point of reference in regard to 'higher end' watches (well higher end to me anyway). Anytime I've had an issue with my Hublot timepieces he always intervenes and bends over backwards to help me resolve the iss... 

I know Francois personally and there is no problem here.

 
 By: MichaelC : January 26th, 2015-08:11
Francois Bennahmias lived in NY many years and perhaps was there when the tragedy occurred. He LOVES the United States. As an American, I take no offense whatsoever with his remark. You need to re-read what Ken wrote about Francois' answers being quick an... 

Mr's B's intent

 
 By: sschew : January 26th, 2015-08:24
I have no doubt that there was no malice or ill will involved whatsoever. I'm not questioning his integrity-all I'm saying is that he could have made a more articulate statement without mentioning a 'tower falling' that is all. No one is questioning motiv... 

Francois is an ass sometimes...and I love him for it.

 
 By: ThomasM : January 26th, 2015-08:47
FHB is blunt and no bullshit. he has always stood behind his words and his products; when AP screws up, he takes it like a man and deals with it fairly and directly. Always. is he brusque at times? yes. do I want to kick his ass at times? yes. but I respe... 

Hello TM

 
 By: sschew : January 26th, 2015-09:00
Yeah TM, I can understand that. That's why I like JC Biver so much. Stands behind the product with no bull. Cheers Speedwing

Mr. Biver and I have an...interesting relationship.

 
 By: ThomasM : January 26th, 2015-09:23
I don't know how he feels about me, but I know I respect the heck out of his business sense and execution, voting for him as watch exec of the year more times than I ever thought I would... cheers, TM

HI TM

 
 By: sschew : January 26th, 2015-09:55
Yeah Mr. Biver is quite the character and CEO. The funny thing is I'm more like Mr. Bennahmias than JC in my field. Take care Thomas and BTW I hope you still have the Legacy which is one of my favourite watches out there. Take care Speedwing

I love this guy

 
 By: CastorKrieg : January 26th, 2015-14:27
I had a chance to meet him when my MBA class visited the AP manufacture in Le Brassus. He is a breath of fresh air in an industry full of know-it-all stuck-ups. For people who do not know him and read only this interview he comes off as very daredevil, bu... 

Hi PawZaw MBA visit

 
 By: sschew : January 26th, 2015-14:49
Wish I could have had him visit my MBA class as well-guess UK is too far. I know JC Biver also went to give a talk at IMD in Lausanne (maybe there's where you went as well) and was a hit. Best interview/interesting story has to be when he went to talk to ... 

"Royal Oak and Offshore will remain our core product lines."

 
 By: ik2000 : January 26th, 2015-11:00
Thanks very much for taking the time to conduct the interviews during a very busy week Ken. I hope the following comments of mine are taken as genuine comments from a big fan of the brand, and an AP owner. Not being argumentative at all, but I feel this i... 

Royal oak instead of AP

 
 By: dsgalaxy1 : January 26th, 2015-11:29
like hublot instead of MDM. how can a maison forget one of his two founders? edward piguet's line is still missing.... what a shame!

I read you loud and clear ik2000.

 
 By: MichaelC : January 26th, 2015-14:25
This subject has been considered for many years. Of course, in some ways, this is a good problem for AP, and in others, certainly not. I firmly believe you could take away both RO lines and Audemars Piguet could still thrive. But it certainly would be a v...  

You mean this one :)

 
 By: ik2000 : January 27th, 2015-01:48
And yes, I agree regarding the octagons, and its funny you mentioned it, but it was when I first tried the 15202 that I had that feeling. I have the 26300 ROC, but the 15202.... wow, they are actually quite different watches! ...  

lk2000, don't despair, there is no question the non-RO models are important at APHQ

 
 By: ThomasM : January 26th, 2015-16:22
hi, sometimes a model line can become so iconic and so successful it seems to overshadow everything else. until it doesn't. don't despair, there is no question AP HQ and their Board remember their heritage pre-1972. they have even created a full time glob... 

Hehe, yes, am aware what usually occupies your wrist!!

 
 By: ik2000 : January 27th, 2015-01:54
I guess I will just take consolation in the fact that the JA line will be done in a few years as mentioned above.... for which I will interpret the fact that it will not be hasty procedure, but one in which they have taken their time, and done properly, w... 

Jules Audemars range re-positioning

 
 By: MTF : January 26th, 2015-18:04
It will be a few years before the Jules Audemars range will be re-positioned as cutting edge and new icon of Audemars Piguet portfolio. So, it is not surprising that you are seeing the "lull before the storm" in the press release waffle. Hang in there....... 

Unfortunately my body parts won't fetch enough on the black market .....

 
 By: ik2000 : January 27th, 2015-01:51
for the JA TC hehehe..... I posted a wristshot pic above of it, its is such a well executed design!

2. Octavio Garcia - Chief Artistic Officer, Lucas Gopp - Senior Designer

 
 By: KIH : January 26th, 2015-05:13
Mr. Octavio Garcia was born in Chicago, USA. His passion for drawing was nurtured by the habit of copying his favorite heroes on paper, while helping his father repairing old American muscle car sparked his interest in mechanics and industrial designs. He...  

3. Tim Sayler - Chief Marketing Officer

 
 By: KIH : January 26th, 2015-05:17
Mr. Tim Sayler was born in Munich, came to Switzerland to study at Saint-Gull University for the first time. The he went on to study at HEC in Paris as well as New York University Stern School of Business. Earned Master’s degree in Economics and Managemen...  

Audemars Piguet is PuristS' oldest and newest brand

 
 By: MTF : January 26th, 2015-05:57
Thank you Ken and the Audemars Piguet gentlemen for the interviews. Indeed, Audemars Piguet is the oldest brand forum on PuristSPro and thus, the oldest brand-sanctioned forum. At the same time, based on the confidence that AP now has with a constancy of ...  

Great job Ken! Interviews at SIHH are difficult

 
 By: MichaelC : January 26th, 2015-08:19
To secure and the environment is so fast paced. Thanks for getting us some inside information direct from these gentlemen!

My opinion...

 
 By: heartbreaker : January 27th, 2015-04:59
Thank you Ken for your effort and thank you AP for your openness. My opinion is that the most interesting interview was the one with Mr. Tim Sayler (Chief Marketing Officer), while I think Mr. Octavio Garcia (Chief Artistic Director) and Mr. Lucas Gopp (S... 

I agree with your assessments.

 
 By: MichaelC : January 27th, 2015-12:49
Well put, heartbreaker. One of Tim's most notable lines is how AP can speak to a "new generation of collectors". I think we see this with the watches and the marketing.

He is aiming at just that

 
 By: CastorKrieg : January 31st, 2015-15:14
They are closing doors AFAIK, and scaling back on franchise locations. In other words they are reducing the number of sale locations and improving the existing ones. Seems to be a general trend lately within the luxury industry.