Audemars Piguet

Here is the watch that I have just bought on Ebay at the price Of $1550.00. The thing that concern me about its authentic is the dial. It says "Audemars & Piquet" instead of "Audemars, Piguet", the letter "Q" instead of the letter "G", and the "&"...  

duy8388vt As you suspected, you have bought an authentic Audemars & Pi q uet watch assembled ostensibly in Geneva. That's what happens on eBay. It is not an Audemars Piguet watch made in the Manufacture Audemars Piguet of Le Brassus, Switzerland. Rega... 

While suffering from poor condition, an incorrect replacement crown, and obviously poor redial, I suspect that the watch is in fact a genuine AP. The distinctive case appears entirely consistent with ultra-thins from the '60s, and I would surprised to fin... 

Appears "consistent" with those poor engravings. To have any kind of more certain idea we should si the inside of the case back, toghether with the movement. Regarda

The case back has a personalized engraving, which could be entirely consistent with a genuine AP. The serial number is five digits, which is correct for the type. Of course seeing the inside of the case back and movement would be helpful, but I'd be willi... 

The five digits engraved on the back (usually case numbers were engraved on the inside of the case back) and the quality of the engraving intself. The numbers itself appear inconsistent with the presumed age you suggested (60's) given that correspond to a...  

...sorry. But still incorrect for poorness of engraving and inconsistent with the age of the watch. Regards

Here's another example of an ultra-thin from the same era with a case number that was not perfectly aligned. Definitely original, and sold through this forum a long time ago. ...  

I still trust on what Martin Wehrli wrote. If those numbers are "aligned" i'm Naomi Campbell :-) We know AP shifted to the new case numbering with letters when they reached #100.000 in the early 70's. How can you consider "consistent" a case number of 4 d... 

I have shown multiple examples of very similar (if not identical) models with similar case numbers, and yet for some unknown reason you fail to understand that they are typical of those models and period. I have also shown another misaligned example, and ... 

I don't know where your understanding of AP's serial number system came from, but it is not accurate. Here's an example of a very similar model from an auction: Audemars Piguet, Mens, 18k Gold, Caliber 2003 Movement and another: Though the photos have b...  

Is the book from Brunner, Pfeiffer-Belli, Martin Wehrli. The only one about AP. Here is a case with consistent numbers Regards ...  

the image doesn't show on your post, but I have posted several examples of similar five digit case numbers from the very same caliber ultra-thin models from the very same era. Would you like to argue that they are all fake, or from the early 1900s?

Just debatable case numbers and nothing else. Read my other reply and learn WHO is Martin Wehrli. The case showed in the picture doesn't appear has a 41xxx number (perfectly consistent with the early 50's) and show numbers perfectly aligned and engraved. ... 

You have provided no evidence whatsoever suggesting that the cases I have shown are not genuine. And you will not be able to, either, as they are genuine.

These ultra-thin models had both four and five digit case numbers, with the early production having only four.

...but that have inconsistent numbers. It's not the same thing. Now, if you are some AP employee or the director of the AP museum i can trust what you write, otherwise i still prefer to give credit to the director of AP museum. The world is plenty of vint...  

I have no ides what you are referring to, as I have illustrated that the five digit number is entirely consistent with other examples of the same model from the same era. Perhaps you are again referring to either some mistaken set of numbers in a book, or... 

I sent a PM to the original poster before all this arguing about correct or incorrect numbers, etc began, advising him that it was most likely genuine based on the case style and construction, including the numbers that are consistent with this model AP w... 

please inform the forum (or ask the original poster to do so) after he has confirmed the movement and markings inside of the case back. Regards, Tony C.

I PMed him, requesting that he keep us updated and I'll report back...assuming he answers of course. Emil

Hello guys, After a while thinking about the authentic of the watch, I decided to return the watch while the seller had not shipped it yet. I told him everything that I concerned about the authentic of the watch, he said that he did not know about that be...  

Glad you decided to return the first one, that reprinted dial was a real problem to me. The dial on this one may also be an older reprint but it's so hard to tell from photos. When you get the watch, look at the printing on the dial very closely with a je...